Finishing FAQs


For over seventy years, Timesavers has been providing finishing machines for sanding wood, metal, plastics, and a variety of other materials. Providing the industries standards for finishing, Timesavers has a wealth of knowledge when it comes to metal finish:


How is finishing defined?

An industrial process that alters the surface of a manufactured item to achieve a certain property.


What types of finish are there?

  • Grained

  • Brushed

  • Paint Adhesion/Roughing

  • Random/ Non-Directional

  • Target Surface Roughness

(See below for full description)


What are the industry standards for finishing?

There are no specific industry standards for surface finishes. Finishes are designated by the numbers 0 through 8 (see below). Every person has a different definition of each grade of finish. To some, a #4 finish refers to a specific grit (ex-150); to others, a #4 finish has a specific surface roughness (ex-30Ra).


What type of finish is best for metal?

There is a general description of each designated finish values (0 through 8). These descriptions can be found in the chart to the left. These descriptions will vary throughout the industry. There is no specific value to any of these numbers. The most accurate way to quantify the finish you require is to target a measurable surface roughness.


How is surface roughness measured?

Surface roughness can be measured in both standard (µin) and metric units (µm). The most common tool used to measure the surface roughness of a part is a profilometer. 99% of the time, an Ra measurement is all that is required; in more specialized applications, other measurement types are available (see table on right). A profilometer measures the topography of the surface of a part by dragging a stylus perpendicular to the scratch direction. The resulting measurement value is the measured surface roughness of the sampled area.


What is the difference between Wet & Dry Grinding?

Wet and dry machines both process the material in the same way; but wet machines add a coolant that is sprayed onto a part as it is processed. 

Dry Machines are often the preferred choice because they are generally less expensive to purchase and often have a longer life.  Relative to wet machines, there is a much greater risk of fire. Also, unwanted warping due to heat friction, and multiple footprints can result. 

Note: WE HAVE SEEN MANY BUILDINGS GO UP IN FLAMES FROM NOT CHOOSING WET GRINDERS FOR THEIR BUSINESS.

Wet Machines include a filter unit that also pumps coolant on the part, and usually include a drying unit that removes the coolant from the part as it exits the machine. Difference includes one footprint, longer belt life and a finer finish than with dry machines. Although sometimes bits of metal dust and water can collect and turn into a sludge that clogs the machine, as long as the grinder is cleaned every once in a while then there shouldn’t be a problem.

For information on machines, visit our Timesavers page.


What is Manual Grinding?

For small-grade applications, manual grinding of metal can be performed by using a file. However, in most metal fabrication operations grinding is executed with a grinding machine. Metal grinding with a handheld grinder or a stationary grinding machine with industrial grinding wheels or belts are two forms of grinding in metal fab. A portable grinder might be used instead of a grinding machine in hard to reach areas or when larger metal parts will not fit on a machine grinder. Learn more about our manual grinders here.


Designated Finish Values:

FInishing Categories:

#

Description

0 Hot Rolled Annealed w/ Scale
1 Hot Rolled Annealed w/o Scale
2 A Bright Annealed
2B Cold Rolled Annealed w/o Scale Lightly Polished (Brighter than 2D 2D Cold Rolled Annealed w/o Scale (Uniform Matte Finish)
3 Ground unidirectional (uniform) finish using coarse abrasives (36-100).
4-Arch Architectural Finish (Also: Brushed/ Directional/Satin) usines 120 to 180 grit then possibly softened with brush).
4-Dairy Dairy/Sanitary Finish (used in food and medical ind.; all surface defects must be removed). 180 to 320 grit (then possibly softened with brush). 6 Fine Satin Finish using 220 to 400 grit them possibly softened with brush.
7 320+ grit possibly followed by brush. (Mirror FInish with grain lines slightly visible).
8 Mirror/Polished Finish using buffing compounds to acheive a 0 Ra and no grain lines.

Paint Adhesion / Roughing

Generally a single head belt running a coarse abrasive.

Grained Finish

Between 1 and 4 Belt Heads (# of heads dependent on customers budget and throughput)

Brushed Finish

Mixture of 1-3 Belt Heads followed by 1 or 2 Brush Heads

Random / Non-directional

No linear lines (Disc or Rotary Brush)

Target Surface Roughness

1 to 4 heads (generally all belt heads, but may add a brush at the end depending on the customer requirements). These applications usually have a target Ra or MicroInch value.


what is the standard finishing type?

There is no standard finishing type. If you look at the table above, the descriptions that best suit the purpose of your material finish


how fine of a finish is timesavers capable of giving?

Based on the table above, Timesavers machinery is capable of finishing anywhere from a #3 to a #7 finish on most parts. A #8 finish may require the use of buffering compounds, which would be applied to the part and then buffed on another machine or by hand.


HOw long does a Timesaver Last?

It varies on how well you maintain the machine - but typically, a good lifespan for these machines fall around 10 years or so. We’ve had customers with much longer lifespans, too - and support and service is always readily available for all of our customers.


i have a plastic molding that needs to work well with an adhesive, will a timesavers machine work?

This is a seemingly uncommon question that we come across fairly often. Certain machines can rough the surface of plastic well enough to provide a good mold for adhesives. Although it’s not necessarily what Timesavers machinery is built for, it can be used in certain applications like this. Please contact us if you are doing a similar task, as our technical specialists will be better able to assist you.


can you deburr non-flat parts with a rotary brush?

Using a belt with a non-flat or rounded metal part may lead to some serious issues. If the vacuum surface at the base of the machine cannot fully grasp a part, then when the rotary brush moves over the part it will throw it and may very well damage both the part and the entire machine.


what is the best way to grind stainless steel?

If you’re looking for deburring of a next-level quality, then we’d recommend purchasing pre-polished stainless steel sheeting. That way the finished metal will have less burrs and a much smoother finish.

How do Abrasive Belts Work?

 

Abrasive belts are perfect for someone who is looking to remove burrs from a lot of metal in a timely manner. The machine is built to have unfinished parts inserted into the machine on one end, where it will come out the other side finished on the other. During the process, one or more heads with brushes and discs will rotate around the part, knocking all extra stray burrs off of the part. An abrasive belt will remove any burr coming off the surface of a part, which Timesavers calls the vertical burr. The problem with the abrasive belt is that as it removes the vertical burr, it simultaneously creates a horizontal burr or secondary burr. This instead does not appear like a burr but as a sharp edge. This makes us ask the question – if vertical deburring just creates horizontal ones, then how do we get rid of the sharp edge?

HOW DO LASERS MAKE BURRS? 

When lasers cut through metal, they can create sharp edges and can even splatter some of the metal. However, laser machinery manufacturers have also made lot of improvement in edge quality and spatter reduction over the last number of years. As a result, the standard for proper deburring has increased substantially. Burrs are generally smaller and not as firmly attached as they once were. Therefore, if requirements call for deburring without a grain finish, then in some applications just a disc or brushes can be used effectively. Spatter can be more challenging and often the only way to remove it is with an abrasive belt.


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